Can Anet implement and/or read Sardelac Sanitarium ideas and suggestions? - Guild Wars Forums

melissa b · Mar 26, 2011, 06:14 PM // 18:14

Can Anet implement and/or read Sardelac Sanitarium ideas and suggestions? (please provide proof)

Cool Name · Mar 26, 2011, 06:23 PM // 18:23

Of course they can.. do you think it's illegal for them to do it or something? The question is not if they can but if they do. I think it's not too unlikely that the few Anet staff read popular threads on here. I think it's not too unlikely that that Anet use this forum and others to gauge reactions to new updates and stuff too. But obviously they don't have the time to implement every idea from there, even if no one is against it.

Firstly, they have lots of other things to do like WoC etc. Secondly, I think a lot of the worthy ideas they have probably already thought of long ago.

Kook~NBK~ · Mar 26, 2011, 06:33 PM // 18:33

A-Net has implemented many ideas found in Sardelac Sanitarium. The 7-hero party system? A suggestion from SS. Log-in with the option to select your status (online, offline, etc.) - Another SS suggestion. The ability to change your attribute points without any restrictions? Yes, that too was the result of a suggestion to fix a horrible system way back when.

Just because they don't implement every idea people post in Sardelac doesn't mean they don't look them over. There are a LOT of suggestions that are simply BAD and I thank God that they never see the light of day in-game.

As a side-note: I applaud A-Net's discretion in not commenting on suggestions found there.

Cool Name · Mar 26, 2011, 06:38 PM // 18:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~

A-Net has implemented many ideas found in Sardelac Sanitarium. The 7-hero party system? A suggestion from SS. Log-in with the option to select your status (online, offline, etc.) - Another SS suggestion. The ability to change your attribute points without any restrictions? Yes, that too was the result of a suggestion to fix a horrible system way back when.

Just because they don't implement every idea people post in Sardelac doesn't mean they don't look them over. There are a LOT of suggestions that are simply BAD and I thank God that they never see the light of day in-game.

As a side-note: I applaud A-Net's discretion in not commenting on suggestions found there.

Yes they were suggestions found there, but they were also blatantly obvious suggestions, so I don't know if it's because they were posted there that they were done.

*Darcy* · Mar 26, 2011, 07:00 PM // 19:00

Also, don't forget that guru did not start out as the largest GW forum. It had plenty of competition, including non-english-language forums. Then there was in-game chat which could be viewed by any ArenaNet employee who cared to hang around the most popular towns and outposts or even review the logs.

Obviously, I am a big fan of guru forums, but I don't believe we are the center of the GW universe.

Currently there is also the wiki Feedback pages for the purpose of suggestions.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedb...me_suggestions

melissa b · Mar 26, 2011, 08:31 PM // 20:31

Thanks for the response so far. Now I want to provide additional background information and why I asked this question and why I asked for proof...

First some qoutes from people that I would appreciate a response to.

Guru Member Named Bright Star Shine "Actually, Anet can't view Sardelac for some legal reasons.. Something to do with them being able to steal ideas you post or something like that (or at least, that's what I've been told)." this qoute is from post # 138 from this link... http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/p...0474105p7.html

Guru Member Named Marty Silverblade "I've seen a source of this, though I can't find it (and I don't care to spend much time looking either). It's to do with stealing intellectual property. If Anet say they read Sardelac, then implement one of the ideas, then they've taken something that doesn't belong to them. Thus, they don't read Sardelac. If you want Anet to implement ideas, you'll need to post them somewhere where it's clear that you forfeit claims to them." this qoute is from post #140 from the same link as previous qoute

Guru Member Named Bellatrixa "Also I believe there was a comment somewhere about ANet staff not being able to use ideas from Sardelac due to intellectual property laws etc?" this qoute is from post # 13 from this link.... http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...t10475490.html

So to be perfectly clear, my question is NOT does anet use ideas posted in Sardelac?

My question IS can they use ideas and can they read Sardelac? Additionally, can you provide any proof?

**Marty Silverblade** · Mar 26, 2011, 09:32 PM // 21:32

I've found this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_Wiki:Terms_of_Use

Contributions, Licenses & Assignments

Each contributor to the Official Guild Wars Wiki represents that the contributor???s contribution is original and does not infringe upon the intellectual property rights of any third party, and the contributor agrees to license or assign it as follows:

The contributor agrees to license the contributor???s contribution pursuant to the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) 1.2 or any later version (the ???GFDL???), except to the extent that the contributor posts the contribution within or to the Feedback Namespace of the Official Guild Wars Wiki. If your contribution is posted within or to the Feedback Namespace, you hereby assign all right, title, and interest, including without limitation all intellectual property rights, to that contribution to ArenaNet, Inc. and its successors and assigns (collectively ???ArenaNet???) and it shall be deemed the property of ArenaNet. (This enables ArenaNet to use such contributions in its games.) For contributions posted within or to the Feedback Namespace, ArenaNet grants a nonexclusive license to the contribution back to the Official Guild Wars Wiki users pursuant to the GFDL.

Contributors to the Official Guild Wars Wiki may also post content obtained from Guild Wars, its websites, manuals and guides, concept art and renderings, press and fansite kits, and other such copyrighted material that ArenaNet has made available to the general public, to the Official Guild Wars Wiki. Such content is not licensed pursuant to the GFDL and all right, title and interest in and to such content and contributions posted within or to the Feedback Namespace shall remain with ArenaNet and/or NCsoft, as applicable.

By using the Official Guild Wars Wiki, each contributor agrees that any contribution the contributor makes is provided voluntarily and freely with no right to or expectation of content preservation or compensation from ArenaNet or NCsoft. None of ArenaNet or NCsoft, or any of their respective employees, agents or representatives, is responsible if any contributor should change, edit, modify, or remove any information that a contributor has posted on the Official Guild Wars Wiki.

It talks about intellectual property and people forfeiting the claim to it. Thus, it implies that things outside of the designated areas would not be usable by Anet.

MisterB · Mar 26, 2011, 09:39 PM // 21:39

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/...5&postcount=19

There may have been posts or threads on this forum, too. Feel free to use the search function. I know there was an announcement thread at one point.

Black Metal · Mar 26, 2011, 09:41 PM // 21:41

reconnects

probably the best feature Anet implemented, this one is huge

keep in mind, though, the majority of suggestions are horribad

melissa b · Mar 26, 2011, 10:47 PM // 22:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterB

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/...5&postcount=19

There may have been posts or threads on this forum, too. Feel free to use the search function. I know there was an announcement thread at one point.

Well, this link seems to prove that anything posted on Sardelec can't be considered by Anet. Hmmm, so only ideas on wiki feedback can be used, slightly disheartening.

I guess I'll post in Sardelac to finetune an idea and gauge popularity then post on wiki feedback.

Also, it looks like they would want to avoid even read Sardelac or they could risk someone saying they got the idea there.

Thanks for the link with proof, btw.

Kamatsu · Mar 27, 2011, 01:14 AM // 01:14

As the question asked has been answered, and there's no real room for discussion on this matter.. and this isn't the forum for discussing these issues anyways..

Thread Closed.

Mar 26, 2011, 07:00 PM // 19:00	#5
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	Also, don't forget that guru did not start out as the largest GW forum. It had plenty of competition, including non-english-language forums. Then there was in-game chat which could be viewed by any ArenaNet employee who cared to hang around the most popular towns and outposts or even review the logs. Obviously, I am a big fan of guru forums, but I don't believe we are the center of the GW universe. Currently there is also the wiki Feedback pages for the purpose of suggestions. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedb...me_suggestions Last edited by Darcy; Mar 26, 2011 at 07:10 PM // 19:10..

Mar 26, 2011, 08:31 PM // 20:31	#6
melissa b Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2007	Thanks for the response so far. Now I want to provide additional background information and why I asked this question and why I asked for proof... First some qoutes from people that I would appreciate a response to. Guru Member Named Bright Star Shine "Actually, Anet can't view Sardelac for some legal reasons.. Something to do with them being able to steal ideas you post or something like that (or at least, that's what I've been told)." this qoute is from post # 138 from this link... http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/p...0474105p7.html Guru Member Named Marty Silverblade "I've seen a source of this, though I can't find it (and I don't care to spend much time looking either). It's to do with stealing intellectual property. If Anet say they read Sardelac, then implement one of the ideas, then they've taken something that doesn't belong to them. Thus, they don't read Sardelac. If you want Anet to implement ideas, you'll need to post them somewhere where it's clear that you forfeit claims to them." this qoute is from post #140 from the same link as previous qoute Guru Member Named Bellatrixa "Also I believe there was a comment somewhere about ANet staff not being able to use ideas from Sardelac due to intellectual property laws etc?" this qoute is from post # 13 from this link.... http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...t10475490.html So to be perfectly clear, my question is NOT does anet use ideas posted in Sardelac? My question IS can they use ideas and can they read Sardelac? Additionally, can you provide any proof? Last edited by melissa b; Mar 26, 2011 at 08:34 PM // 20:34..

Mar 27, 2011, 01:14 AM // 01:14	#11
Kamatsu Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia	As the question asked has been answered, and there's no real room for discussion on this matter.. and this isn't the forum for discussing these issues anyways.. Thread Closed. __________________ Have a moderation related issue or just want to chat? Send me a PM

Mar 26, 2011, 06:14 PM // 18:14	#1
melissa b Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2007	Can Anet implement and/or read Sardelac Sanitarium ideas and suggestions? Can Anet implement and/or read Sardelac Sanitarium ideas and suggestions? (please provide proof)

Mar 26, 2011, 06:23 PM // 18:23	#2
Cool Name Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2008 Guild: Shadowed Ones Profession: E/A	Of course they can.. do you think it's illegal for them to do it or something? The question is not if they can but if they do. I think it's not too unlikely that the few Anet staff read popular threads on here. I think it's not too unlikely that that Anet use this forum and others to gauge reactions to new updates and stuff too. But obviously they don't have the time to implement every idea from there, even if no one is against it. Firstly, they have lots of other things to do like WoC etc. Secondly, I think a lot of the worthy ideas they have probably already thought of long ago.

Mar 26, 2011, 06:33 PM // 18:33	#3
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	A-Net has implemented many ideas found in Sardelac Sanitarium. The 7-hero party system? A suggestion from SS. Log-in with the option to select your status (online, offline, etc.) - Another SS suggestion. The ability to change your attribute points without any restrictions? Yes, that too was the result of a suggestion to fix a horrible system way back when. Just because they don't implement every idea people post in Sardelac doesn't mean they don't look them over. There are a LOT of suggestions that are simply BAD and I thank God that they never see the light of day in-game. As a side-note: I applaud A-Net's discretion in not commenting on suggestions found there.

Mar 26, 2011, 09:39 PM // 21:39	#8
MisterB Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy Guild: [ban] Profession: W/	http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/...5&postcount=19 There may have been posts or threads on this forum, too. Feel free to use the search function. I know there was an announcement thread at one point.

Mar 26, 2011, 09:41 PM // 21:41	#9
Black Metal Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2009 Profession: N/	reconnects probably the best feature Anet implemented, this one is huge keep in mind, though, the majority of suggestions are horribad